Man tries to choke his basset hound to death

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Man tries to choke his basset hound to death

Wednesday, October 10. 2012

A Jefferson man was arrested following a domestic dispute call last weekend where he tried to choke a basset hound at his Elrod Avenue apartment in front of his wife and 15-year-old stepchild. Robert Pilgrim, 43, has been charged with simple battery, cruelty to children, cruelty to animals, criminal trespass and battery in relation to the Oct. 6 incident.
For the full story, see the Oct. 10 issue of The Jackson Herald.

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#1 FJCR on 10/10/12 at 10:05 PM [Reply]

WAIT A MINUTE what was the domestic dispute? Because he tried to choke a dog? No I get it him and his wife were having an arguement that was the dispute. It's a wonder they didn't charge him with domestic assualt for ghoking the dog?

#2 Janet Davis on 10/11/12 at 12:04 PM [Reply]

They should charge him with everything they can for choking that dog!!! If a person will hurt an animal, then they will hurt a human as well! I say, throw him under the jail.

#2.1 FJCR on 10/11/12 at 09:40 PM [Reply]

Janet- I agree

#2.2 FJCR on 10/11/12 at 09:45 PM [Reply]

Janet- And usually the reason someone abuses an animal OR womenOR children is because they don't have the guts to do it to a man their own size?

#3 Michael McCarthy on 10/12/12 at 11:47 PM [Reply]

The article "should" say allegedly tried to choke his dog. He has not been convicted of a crime yet. Women have been known to lie about domestic violence to gain the upper hand in divorce settlements.

#3.1 FJCR on 10/13/12 at 01:21 AM [Reply]

Michael- I'm sure the officers did their job the right way AND they don't need citizens second guessing them?

#3.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/13/12 at 04:17 AM [Reply]

Were you there?

#3.1.1.1 Joe Christmas on 10/13/12 at 07:16 AM [Reply]

Good point the dog could be lying. Haven't you heard the phrase "Lie like a dog".

#3.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/13/12 at 10:26 AM [Reply]

LOL!

#3.1.1.1.2 FJCR on 10/13/12 at 02:44 PM [Reply]

Joe- I never thought of a dishonest dog but you could be right?

#3.1.1.2 FJCR on 10/13/12 at 02:42 PM [Reply]

Michael- No I wasn't there but I know when cops do their jobs SOME CITIZENS say they went to far AND other times the SAME CITIZENS say the cops didn't do enough? COPS have a NO WIN job? No matter what they do they CAN'T get the respect of everyone?

#3.1.1.2.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/13/12 at 02:49 PM [Reply]

And that has nothing to do with guilt or non-guilt. Cops don't need respect. They need to do their jobs for their salary just like all of us do, according to the rules. According the our Constitution a man is innocent before proven guilty unless you know something I don't.

#3.1.1.2.1.1 FJCR on 10/13/12 at 03:05 PM [Reply]

Michael- I agree with you to a point. BUT let's look at it another way. Lets say a man takes a hostage and the cops show up. And after talking to the guy for 4 hours the guy shoots and kills the hostage then the cops shoot and kill the suspect? Now you got the hostages family wanting to know why the cops didn't shoot the suspect sooner so their family member didn't havr to die. Then you got the suspects family asking why the cops killed their family member? It's a NO WIN SITUATION.

#4 Michael McCarthy on 10/13/12 at 04:06 PM [Reply]

In that situation the sooner they shot the hostage-taker the better. Who cares what the hostage-taker's family thinks?

#4.1 FJCR on 10/14/12 at 04:54 PM [Reply]

Michael BUT is not the hostage taker also a human being AND is not his family people too? Do they not have rights? The hostage takers family DID NOTHING WRONG and they are going to say their family member didn't deserve to be shot down likw a dog? BUT I agree with you shoot his first THEN ask him why he did it?

#4.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/15/12 at 04:31 AM [Reply]

In some situations where there is a hostage-taker, who may kill his hostage, the best thing to do is neutralize him with a head shot. A leg shot won't do it. I just wish the police would learn to use leg shots when possible. They never do. They shoot to kill, even the unarmed and then they pat each other on the back and feel justified like that naked student in Alabama. Or closer to home the guy with the gasoline. Good God, any amateur could have shot him in the leg and brought him in alive.

#4.1.1.1 FJCR on 10/15/12 at 11:44 AM [Reply]

Michael- I agree BUT from a young age I was taught if you pull a gun you had better be ready to shoot and when you shoot you had better shoot to kill. No matter if it's hunting or self defense? What if a cop shot a suspect and just wounded him then the suspect got to a gun and shot and killed the cop? Cops can't get a straight answer from citizens? One time the citizens say DON'T KILL the suspects then they turn around and say they don't like their tax money going to pay for these people to sit in jail?

#4.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/15/12 at 11:51 AM [Reply]

FJCR: Police are to protect and serve. If they can save a life, even a troubled one, they are obligated to try. It's easy to kill someone.

You know who I admire? Stan Evans for the way he handled the kid with a bomb at the school. He saved the hostage and the hostage taker and did not allow the bomb to go off. All without a shot. He's a hero in my eyes for this. Cops who fill citizens with lead when it's obvious it wasn't necessary disgust me.

This is my last word on the subject FJCR. We've beaten this dead horse enough.

#4.1.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 10/15/12 at 01:42 PM [Reply]

Michael- I think the correct term here would be "Beat an already dead dog to death" And I agree Stan Evans did a great job with the kid with the bomb BUT you know as well as I do that it don't always end like that?

#5 kevin on 10/13/12 at 05:30 PM [Reply]

maybe you should get the whole story before you judge somebody. i know FACT of how some women are and yeah they do get the upper hand. as far as him dealing with a man his own size, maybe you should go visit him when he gets out or are you MAN enough.

#6 I agree on 10/13/12 at 11:53 PM [Reply]

McCarthy doesn't need the whole story. He knows everything about everything.

#6.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/14/12 at 01:23 AM [Reply]

But I use my own name. I am not a coward.

#7 Brian on 10/16/12 at 08:03 PM [Reply]

Unfortunately there is a strong link between animal abuse and domestic violence. This is evident in this case. Often times an abuser with use a pet as leverage. Up to 71% of victims claim their abuser threatened, harmed, or killed their pet.

Ahimsa House works to address this link and can be a resource for people dealing with this horrific abuse.

#8 kevin on 10/16/12 at 08:51 PM [Reply]

Again, I think its unjust to pass judgement on anyone without knowing the FACTS, not what the media reports. We know nothing of what happened only to read what someone else has reported. I got access to this gentlemans facebook and I find it hard to believe he would harm an animal but everyone is entitled to opinion.

#8.1 FJCR on 10/16/12 at 09:52 PM [Reply]

kevin- It wasn't just what someone else reported. It may not be true BUT that is what he was arrested for? UNLESS you have access to the arrest reports that say just what he was arrested for AND can tell us all right here? You had better watch what you say because next they may say you were so mad you came over and kicked their dog?

#9 CEM on 10/22/12 at 12:59 PM [Reply]

I was a battered wife for 8 years. I found the nerve to get out. He abused our dogs also. I live very close to where this incident took place. I agree that you shouldn't make assumptions or grab your pitchforks before someone is proven guilty or innocent. Unfortunately, there are women out there that cry wolf...and men too.
However, I have had the misfortune to discover that in some cases, it's all in who you know. This county is still run on the good ol' boy system, from the police all the way up to the judges. It seems to matter more if you know someone in the right position or grew up with them here... than providing protection and justice.
If this man is innocent then he will get the chance to prove that. If he is not, then he deserves to have the same things done to him that he has done to others. I hope she gains the strength and confidence to leave him and not turn back if this is true. No one has the right to judge another unless they have been in that person's shoes.

#9.1 kevin on 10/22/12 at 09:09 PM [Reply]

i agree with you 100% cem and hate anyone to be in that situation but your comment on the "good ol boy system" is very interesting. In looking into this issue I hear that the GBI are going to be getting involved due to false allegations. This IS just word on the street but I Heard that the way this gentleman got arrested was a little fishy. All may ask where do I get my info well not gonna lie, my brother is in there with this gentleman and its just his side of the story. Im still not taking sides just finding this story to be getting very interesting.

#9.2 FJCR on 10/22/12 at 09:33 PM [Reply]

CEM- I didn't know about no abuse to others BUT IF he did that too then he needs to be put under the jail? Abuse to an animal is bad enough but to take it to the next level and hurt someone? BUT we do know about him choking a dog AND that takes a piece of TRASH to hurt a innocent animal? Now if it had been a Pit Bull and he said it attacked him? MAYBE????????
BUT alot of women do go back because the abuser makes them feel they are worthless and they deserve the abuse? I would put the abuse in prison until the victim forgot all about them and could move on?

#10 concerned on 10/24/12 at 07:31 PM [Reply]

Unless you know the whole story you sould not even know what you are talking about. I know both parties involved and there is no women trying to get the upper hand in this one. I have seen the bruies and blood. He was charged with CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, SIMPLE BATTERY. (FVA), BATTERY. (FVA), CRIMINAL TRESPASS. (FVA), CRUELTY TO CHILDREN THIRD DEGREE. And to the ones that are dumb enough not to look these are public record on the Jackson County Jail website. Unless you have real insite into this leave the people in it alone.

#10.1 FJCR on 10/24/12 at 08:21 PM [Reply]

WELL concerned- There is no way I would defend this kind of scum and say he was innocent? I believe if you will abuse an animal the abuse of a person is not far behind and if you will abuse an animal WHY NOT abuse a person? I don't have time for and ain't going to be around an abuser? Be it animals OR people.

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