Deputy injured in car explosion

Monday, October 25. 2010

A Jackson County sheriff's deputy was injured Monday after his propane-fueled vehicle exploded while he was responding to a call.

Around 6:30 a.m. JCSO Deputy Gary Cox was responding to a call at Hwy. 82 North of Jefferson. As he lit a cigarette, the vehicle burst into flames. He jumped from the vehicle while it was traveling around 50 miles per hour, officials said.

The deputy had some first-degree burns on his face and was treated and released at Athens Regional Medical Center.

All other propane-fueled deputy cars have been grounded pending the results of an investigation.

Officials from New York firm that markets propane-fueled vehicles will inspect the car in the coming days, JCSD leaders said.

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#1 Concerned on 10/25/10 at 03:40 PM [Reply]

First - why is it ok to smoke in a county owned vehicle.

Second - why is it ok to smoke while driving and responding to a call.

I hate the officer was injured, but this sounds like a policy issue and something that could have been completely prevented in the first place with proper oversight.

#1.1 Scott on 10/26/10 at 07:28 PM [Reply]

You know I wonder when your facing a criminal with a gun in your face would you ask about this deputy smoking on the way to your call? His job is high stress, boring at times, and his choice is to smoke. I guess you prefer he die for you craving a cigarette and being denied it for eight hours. How inconsiderate are you? People need to learn it is not your right to live my life for me. If it is I want to come over and see what I can demand you do to satisfy what I believe is wrong with you. God never meant man to be enslaved to another mans opinion. Democrats believe that is their right though.

#1.1.1 FJCR on 10/27/10 at 05:04 PM [Reply]

Scott I agree with you on this. Now I could understand him not smoking while he had someone in the back of his car BUT the only person getting harmed from him smoking was himself. AND for those of you who say it was his fault and he should have to pay the county back for the police car and pay his own medical bills? Say that to yourself and think about how stupid it sounds? It don't matter WHO you work for wether it's the Goverment or a private company and you are on the clock their insurance or workers comp. have to pay if you have a wreck?
I'll tell you something else you may not have known. f you are on the clock and you are driving your own personal car and you have a wreck your boss IS still responsible for your car and IF you get hurt workers comp. has to pay your medical bills BECAUSE you are on the clock and getting paid when you wrecked.

#1.1.2 Michael McCarthy on 10/28/10 at 02:21 AM [Reply]

Scott: Smoking is dangerous. A police car is public property subject to the public's opinion. If the officer wants to smoke he should do it outside of the taxpayer's car. What he does on his own time is his business but when he's in OUR car then the sheriff needs to make rules. What is so hard to understand about this?

#1.1.2.1 jj on 11/01/10 at 08:07 PM [Reply]

hey mike since the car belongs to you why don't you put your tail in one and take a ride, they are short a couple. you want to blame the deputy for this accident because he lit a cigarette, a spark could come from anything inside the vehicle,a power invertor , static, maybe you didn't know that about your vehicle.i only hope that maybe one day that some people of this county that like to critize those that protect and serve will wake up and realize what you have . this county has been very lucky that all of the major crimes that surround us on all sides has not infested us, but when that gang banger kicks in your door maybe that deputy will be clocked in and not on his way to work in his personal vehicle because taxpayers want to save a few dollars by parking patrol cars. hey here is a hint if you want to cut start with the capitol projects building. come on people you don't like your government get out there and run, oh i forgot you would rather complain about the problems that doing something about it.all those that whine about the sheriffs office should run for that office, see if you can handle it. come on sheriff we need you for a couple of more terms.lets really give them something to complain about!!!

#1.1.2.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/02/10 at 10:44 AM [Reply]

If a gangbanger comes to my door I doubt there will be a propane powered police car waiting to save me. I'll take care of that one myself and call you guys to clean up the mess and fill out the paperwork.

I think I was fair. No one should be smoking in a police car. Duh. Actually, if you read my posts I suggested suing the propane company because a cigarrette should not start this type of fire. I also think marijuana should be legal but not necessarily when the police are driving the taxpayers' car.

#1.1.2.1.2 FJCR on 11/02/10 at 10:57 AM [Reply]

jj I agree these people think they can sit at home behind their computers and see what everyone else is doing wrong and how to fix this country but DO NOTHING but complain. Talking don't fix a thing action does. Like the song says "A little less talk and alot more action" will fix things.

#1.1.2.1.2.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/02/10 at 09:53 PM [Reply]

And what pray tell are you doing FJCR? Sitting behind your computer patting yourself on the back?

#1.1.2.1.2.1.1 FJCR on 11/03/10 at 01:42 PM [Reply]

Michael I don't sit here and blame everyone else for everything that happens? AND telling someone they can't smoke in a car because the tax payers paid for it and a few of those tax payers don't want them too is taking it a little far?

#1.1.2.1.2.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/03/10 at 03:11 PM [Reply]

No, I know you don't. Because with your spelling abilities it is obvious you do not write policies and procedures. Safety is an important part of any manager's job. Smoking in a car can cause a fire. You can read that in any 3rd grader's book. Try it. You'll like it.

#1.2 FJCR on 10/26/10 at 08:16 PM [Reply]

Concerned- To respond to your post How are you going to stop them from smoking in their patrol cars? The only way would be to install video cameras in every car then you would be violating their rights?

#1.2.1 Matt N on 10/31/10 at 12:00 PM [Reply]

how is it a violation of their rights to make them not smoke in a GOVERNMENT vehicle? video taping them? wow, they have CAMERAS on their vehicles already, or have you never seen the show COPS? they shouldn't be allowed to smoke in their vehicles. OH, and I'm a smoker.
NOW WE are loosing out, because this guy burst one of our cars in flames. sorry it happened, but shouldn't be a smoker anyways. how would you feel when a criminal gets away because the officer had to stop becuase of a smokers cough, or in this case now, becuase his car was gutted in a fire.

#1.2.1.1 FJCR on 11/01/10 at 04:49 AM [Reply]

Ok Matt and whilw we're at it let's make them stop carrying guns too? Because they are dangerous and someone could get shot? No I got it lets take their cars away and put them back on horses or bicycles?

#1.3 Chris 42431 on 10/28/10 at 06:26 PM [Reply]

I agree. OSHA does not permit smoking or any type of flames within 15 feet of any propane source in the workplace. Why in the world is smoking permitted in this type of vehicle? If necessary, the officer can smoke away from the vehicle on breaks and lunch breaks.

#1.4 Officer ********* on 11/03/10 at 01:45 PM [Reply]

Michael McCarthy - You need to go back to your boring, unemployed life sitting on the computer and finding something wrong with everyone else's life!

The police officer has every right to smoke if he wants to!

If he saved your life from a criminal or murderer and lit a cig, would you complain then?

NO so shut up and find someone else to cry about!

#1.4.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/03/10 at 03:08 PM [Reply]

I'm not unemployed. As for a boring life, no one ever accused me of that before. Trust me. So stick that in your cigarette and smoke it. (But please, not in the taxpayer's car) Or we'll fire you! (not literally)

#1.5 Ronald Kitchens on 11/04/10 at 10:08 AM [Reply]

Concerned,

The issue has nothing to do with a cigarette, the issue has to do with propane leaking from the line or tank that has caused a patrol car to burst into flames.

Personally, on the cigarette issue, its America, its legal to smoke one and I like people using and exercising there Constitutional rights. way to go deputy, and goodluck with a swift recovery.

#1.5.1 FJCR on 11/04/10 at 12:09 PM [Reply]

Ronald Kitchens-AMEN

#1.5.2 Michael McCarthy on 11/05/10 at 03:36 AM [Reply]

In his own car.

#2 maci on 10/25/10 at 06:42 PM [Reply]

why was he smoking in gov't vehicle and why was he smoking being distracted from his call he was so called going on? had he not been what he was not supposed to this would not have happened, he needs to pay the county for the car and his own medical bills, this was HIS fault, why should my tax money be responsible for his stupid - ness..

#3 FJCR on 10/25/10 at 09:07 PM [Reply]

I knew something like this was going to happen? AND I wonder if someone messed with the fittings causing them to leak then when he lit his cigarette the fumes had built up and caused the explosion. If he hadn't lit the cigarette it may have caused him to pass out and he would have wrecked maybe killing himself.

#3.1 Just a nurse who pays taxes on 10/26/10 at 10:55 AM [Reply]

To FJCR I think your fittings are loose and something is leaking. Seriously guy, where do you find your thought processes. Since you truly believe that, when he sues the County and wins, you can pay the bill with your taxes and give the rest of us a tax break.
For those of you who love to do spell check, I did one just for you so that you can complain about it for months as you normally do. Note the word "higher" in my letter. I know the word is "hire". That is what happens when you work all night and do CPR while smoking a cigarette. Just keeping those spell checkers on their toes.

#3.1.1 FJCR on 10/26/10 at 07:39 PM [Reply]

WHOA nurse Lets start with a fact. SOMETHING WAS LEAKING wether someone did it on purpose or it was an accident THE FITTINGS WERE LEAKING?

#4 Just a nurse who pays taxes on 10/26/10 at 06:02 AM [Reply]

I am truly grateful that the deputy was not injured more, as this could have been a tragic accident. He could have seriously injured himself as well as other drivers/passengers on the road. I have a few questions, Why was he smoking in a vehicle that is owned by the tax payers? Why was he smoking while responding to a call? Shouldn't he have been driving without distractions? Smoking can be just as much of a distraction as texting, which obviously is the case in this situation. His personal habit and careless act could have cost an innocent life. This would have opened the county up for a lawsuit due to a distracted driver. Which would eat up our tax dollars that could be used to higher more deputies. I personally do not care if he has bad habits, but leave them out of the car and off the road. I still can not get over the fact that he was on a call and apparently did not have both hands on the steering wheel. Is that also not the law? Do we not teach our kids to keep both hands on the steering wheel? Just wondering where the ethics are here. You ticket people for less. I do not know of any job that allows people to smoke while working. Maybe next time I am doing CPR on a patient, I should light up a cigarette. SOUNDS STUPID RIGHT? Same thing just different place (hospital vs deputy car)

#5 IsPropaneSafe on 10/26/10 at 06:23 AM [Reply]

First, I certainly hope the JCSO deputy recovers from this accident and does not sue the county - because he probably has a good case here to win. Gasoline is no panacea for preventing vehicle fires or explosions, but the fact is that your local Ford dealer works on these gasoline fuel systems every day - along with the rest of the vehicle. Any time you take something, such as a small number of propane vehicles, that is out of the norm you are taking additional risk. There are 62 million cars on the road today in the USA - 350,000 are propane-fueled and almost exclusively by "fleet", where mechanics associatedly work on the entire vehicle. Who fixes JCSO vehicles? I see them at the local Jefferson Ford dealer and who else? When are inspections due and how do they differ from regularly scheduled Ford maintenance? The local Ford dealer and 'who' does what to the vehicle? How do you change the parts and interact between the Ford dealer and 'who' for the propane system? These propane systems are not available at the local Ford dealer. Jackson County Sheriffs Office has created a potential senario where you get people pointing fingers at one another who maintain these vehicles - how does one spell lawsuit? Most companies that use natural gas cars do ALL their own maintenance. Not here! I read an article about the JCSO conversion - and what a great success it was about a month ago in one of the police magazines - written by the sheriff. All I could think about was the first accident that would result in a huge lawsuit involving the local Ford dealer and the county (and we, the taxpayer, pay). Great idea. Hope it doesn't cost the taxpayer too much.

#5.1 Rick on 10/27/10 at 10:36 AM [Reply]

I am gald the officer did not get hurt, but this was what I was scared would happen when you start adding propane to vehicles where it does belong to start with!!! Being a firefighter you can have a leak alot easier in a propane vehicle regardless if the fittings was checked, if this officer had gotten near a fire and the fumes hit or if it had came in contact with another ignition source it would have done the exact same thing!! As for as the officer smoking no I do not agree with him smoking and driving both hands should be kept on the wheel at times while driving if possible and this is in the safe driver courses!! I think the safe thing would be is to take the propane vehicles out of service and go back to regular gasoline vehicles, they still can catch fire but propane is alot more dangerous!!! Like I have said if he had drove up on a fire and the fumes from the propane had hit it BOOM!!! The same thing would have happened , plus adding propane cylinders to vehicles adds another burden to fire and ems personnel who have to respond to these incidents when the vehicles are on fire and if they get into a wreck.. There should be a policy in place if there is not one that there should be no smoking in the vehicle or near the vehilces that use propane if they are to continued to be used, and if there was a policy of no smoking in the car and this officer disregarded this policy then he should receive the proper discipline actions....

#5.1.1 FJCR on 10/27/10 at 05:20 PM [Reply]

Rick while I agree with your post I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO SAY BOTH HANDS SHOULD BE ON THE WHEEL AT ALL TIMES? If he has both hands on the wheel at all times then how is he going to answer a radio call and talk on the radio?

#5.2 hillyer godfrey on 10/28/10 at 01:34 PM [Reply]

Jefferson Motors just sells the vehicles to the county, they DO NOT install the propane systems in the SO cars. The propane systems are sold by a company up North and a company the SO contracted with locally installs the system in the cars. Most of the time, when you see a vechicle at Jefferson Motors it is there for something other than "servicing". If I am not mistaken, the county has a mechanic that does the "servicing" of these vehicles at a much lower cost than the Ford place charges. You may have also seen some of the SO vehicles at another "fast oil change" facility in Jefferson also. Why? I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!

#6 ricky on 10/26/10 at 11:21 AM [Reply]

Okay, before we get all carried away, blaming the officer, let's remember, THIS WAS AN ACCIDENT. Since propane is heavier than air, the entire interior of the car would have been filled with gas if lighting a smoke caused the explosion. More likely, when he turned on the emergency lights or something that caused an arc in the lower part of the car if not something in the trunk near the tank. I agree, smoking should not be allowed in a county vehicle, since it is not allowed in a county building and his car is just an extension of that building, but to blame the officer and a bad habit is ridiculous.

#7 cassie on 10/26/10 at 01:15 PM [Reply]

As usual, start point pointing the fingers at the deputy. Isn’t it always the deputy’s fault when something happens! That seems to be the attitude of some of you. Instead of being so derogatory, try to sit back for once and look at the whole picture. It is quite comical to me that you honestly think him smoking was distracting him from the call he was responding to and for someone else to mention that he only had one hand on the steering wheel while smoking. If that is so distracting and you must keep both hands on the steering wheel at all times, why don’t we just take radios out of vehicles so you won’t be distracted changing the channels, or take the AC/Heat out of them so no one will be distracted adjusting the temperature in the car. What about manual shift vehicles? Don’t you use one hand to change gears while ONLY ONE HAND is on the steering wheel? If he hadn’t of lit the cigarette and the car was full of fumes, what would happen when he slid across the seat and then touched something? Don’t you think static electricity could have sparked it as well? Would you still be blaming the officer? It could have happened to any of the officers, smokers or not! What if neither of those happened and the deputy breathed enough of it in that he passed out? The lighting of the cigarette is so petty to gripe about compared to the big picture. Who cares that he was smoking a cigarette, THE CAR EXPLODED from a propane leak! Let’s get our priorities straight for once!

#7.1 FJCR on 10/26/10 at 07:47 PM [Reply]

cassie- You are right this was in no way the officers fault. Saying this was his fault would be like if he was responding to a call and a tire blew out and he wrecked killing himself saying that was his fault? THIS WAS A FREAK ACCIDENT. It may have never happen before and may never happen again BUT IT DID HAPPEN this time.

#7.2 MACI on 10/27/10 at 10:29 AM [Reply]

WHO ARE YOU HIS WIFE? FIGURES. GET A JOB YOURSELF.

#7.2.1 FJCR on 10/27/10 at 05:10 PM [Reply]

No MACI I ain't his wife BUT I do have some common sense.

#7.3 Pam on 10/29/10 at 03:43 PM [Reply]

Amen Cassie!!

#8 Cassie on 10/26/10 at 01:24 PM [Reply]

Why is no one bringing up the fact that it is a local Pendergrass business that is installing the kits on the patrol cars and they are doing this for MULTIPLE departments. Was it not installed properly? Here is the business website www.force911.com

#9 cassie on 10/26/10 at 01:39 PM [Reply]

www.force911.com
While checking out the site, check out all of the other departments that are using the same vehicles...Jefferson, Commerce, and several other local departments. Do their officers smoke in the vehicles? should these all be checked out for possible leaks?

#9.1 FJCR on 10/26/10 at 07:52 PM [Reply]

cassie- They will probably bring every car back in and check it out to make sure there are no leaks.

#9.2 Robin on 10/27/10 at 02:36 PM [Reply]

Cassie I think you hit the nail on the head..! First and formost I want to extend my Prayers from our family to the Deputy's family. My husband is also in Law Enforcement and when one gets hurt we all hurt for them and their family. It is very easy for people to criticize and judge the very Officers and Deputies that put their lives on the line every time the put on their uniforms and walk out the door to go help the Public...they are the very ones that call for their help but yet judge them sometimes even before they hear the whole story. No he should probably not have been smoking in the car but hey you know he does ride in that car for someimtes 12 hours at a time atleast... I know it does not make it right in the eyes of us that dont smoke but honestly folks give it a break. Your Tax dollars really..! Imagine how much of your " Tax Dollars" would have went to his grieving family if he had died from Inhaling the fumes had he not had lit the Cig. There are always going to be he said she said comments and the old saying hind sight is 20 20 .. bet if you asked if today would he do that again he would say heck no..but honestly we should all just be thankful he is ok and able to go home to his family not be worrying if he is going to Sue.. for all those people out there that want to grip about this or other issues with our Law Enforcement just remember that as I watch My Husband and Father of my children walk out the door each night I worry that he may never come home. That I may lose the love of my life to a job he loves and is devoted to and all because he just wants to help each of you and your family. Also for the ones that are judging have you never made a mistake in your life.. one that if you had the chance to go back and do over you would.. I am just saying count your blessings and make the most out of your lives and instead of bashing our Law Enforcement maybe take the time to Thank them for all they do for you and your family. They miss Holidays with their families and ball games and countless other Family times so that they may help yours stay safe or rescue you when you call for their help.. So I say to the Deputy that was involved and to all other Law Enforcement , Thanks from the bottome of my heart for all you do. May God Bless you and your families .

#9.2.1 FJCR on 10/27/10 at 05:38 PM [Reply]

Robin- AMEN People don't understand what a police officer goes through day in and day out or what they have to give up to make sure EVERYONE stays safe.

#9.2.2 ANON on 10/27/10 at 06:48 PM [Reply]

Robin and Cassie. You tell em. I love your comments.I could care less if they smoke or not. If I had their job, I would probably smoke too. I also agree with "get off your highhorse". Boy, some of these posters on here almost sound "perfect".

#9.2.2.1 FJCR on 10/28/10 at 09:28 AM [Reply]

ANON- It is so easy to sit at home in front of the computer and put everyone else down and say what you would have done better? Until you are put in that situation and you walk in their shoes YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENT.
What if he hadn't lit the cigarette and the propane had built up then he pulled up to the call where there was alot of people and someone else lit a cigarette or something else made a spark and caused the explosion There could have been more people hurt or even killed because of this? Just be thankful the officer wasn't hurt nomore than he was?

#9.2.2.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/28/10 at 10:38 AM [Reply]

FJCR: Are you saying the police officer was saved by a cigarette? I wish you and others would stop crying and take responsibility. Yes, the car shouldn't have had propane leaking. But also the dude shouldn't have been smoking in the car. Don't cry to me. I work in a hospital and no smoking is allowed. If I smoke I may have to pay the consequences. Get it?

#9.2.2.1.1.1 FJCR on 10/28/10 at 11:10 PM [Reply]

So Michael are you saying propane powered cars should only be sold to people who don't smoke? If they make new rules that no officer can smoke inside their cars you are going to see police cars sitting all up and down the road with officers standing along side their cars smoking? How much protecting do you think they will do then? I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SMOKE AS LONG AS THEY DO THE JOBS THEY WERE HIRED TO DO.

#9.2.2.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/29/10 at 11:47 PM [Reply]

Smoking causes fires in any vehicle.

#9.2.2.1.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 10/30/10 at 12:10 PM [Reply]

Not if you don't drop the cigarette or dump your ashes in the floor? How many people have smoked thousands and thousands of cigarettes and other not so legal stuff in their cars and they didn't burst into flames?

#9.2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 10/31/10 at 12:21 PM [Reply]

It only takes once.

#10 Murphy on 10/26/10 at 07:36 PM [Reply]

I'm glad officer Cox is OK. He jumped out of a moving car at approx. 50 m.p.h. ON FIRE and lived. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

#11 bigdragon on 10/26/10 at 09:18 PM [Reply]

Everybody get off your high horse. The man lit a cigarette in the car,,,get over it. He works a 12 hour shift and, as luck would have it may not be able to shcedule a smoke break at the convienience of what else may be going on. The propane buildup was the problem and that was NOT his fault.
Some of you people should not be allowed to procreate!

#12 Michael McCarthy on 10/27/10 at 10:23 AM [Reply]

The company that installed the propane system should be sued for damages. A car should not burst into flames simply from smoking. If it is not the policy of the Sheriff's Dept to not smoke in the car, then this needs to change immediately. If it was the policy in place when this happened then the deputy should be disciplined. Glad he only had 1st degree burns. They'll heal without scars.

#13 Carolyn on 10/27/10 at 03:29 PM [Reply]

Why does he take the maybe precious seconds to light a cigarette when he is supposed to be getting to his call in a short of time as possible? Maybe it is time for our public officials to be hired on a no smoking policy. After all, it's banned in most all restaurants, all government buildings, and we know it is simply an addiction! I'm sure there was a no smoking sign in the car!

#13.1 Supreme Taxpayer on 10/28/10 at 09:54 PM [Reply]

Take precious seconds to light a cigarette? Do you think he stopped his car to light the cigarette? If the car was stopped, why did he jump out at 50 mph? If the future, put your brain in gear before letting your fingers start typing.

#14 Also A Tax paying citizen on 10/28/10 at 08:38 AM [Reply]

Come on people lets keep your personal feelings about government, politics and crap out of this. This could have been you in your vehicle. He is a human being no matter what his job title is. It could have been any one of you on an average day this happened to if you had a propane fueled vehicle. Lets just be THANKFUL he is ok and leave all the CRAP out of it. I am praying for this officer and so glad he survived.

#15 Cassie on 10/28/10 at 01:27 PM [Reply]

Come on Maci...give us some more!! Let us hear it!! What was the word you used in your first post..stupid - ness?? Copy and pasted the word straight from you post!

#16 outside observer looking in on 10/28/10 at 07:54 PM [Reply]

Was this
deputy from Banks county???

Were the Dukes of Hazard county around??

Does Boss Hog know about this??

News report,,,,,,Smoking deputy...but no smoking gun...

Did the other deputy check out thir cars,,,I have some matches.

Does this deputy know that smoking can get you killed??

#17 informed member of the public on 10/28/10 at 08:02 PM [Reply]

If this deputy had not been a smoker then ,,,,just maybe his sense of smell would had told him there was a gas leak.....smoking can kill you many ways but only once is enough..

#18 concerned taxpayer on 10/29/10 at 06:50 AM [Reply]

Leave the cars at the jail and don't drive then home. Then, they will have a better chance of not being tampered with, and save the county over $250,000.00 a year. Come on Stan help us citizens out. I sure hope the Deputy gets well.

#18.1 FJCR on 10/29/10 at 03:03 PM [Reply]

Maybe if the cars were left at the jail there may be a better chance that the cars are not tampered with BUT they can still be tampered with. Unless they are locked inside a gate with a guard watching them at ALL TIMES?
BUT the update to this story said the car was tampered with.

#19 Tom on 11/02/10 at 09:39 AM [Reply]

Just a few points here. And I will not point blame here because I was not there, nor am I the investigator here.

Sure leaving the cars at the jail may save a few dollars, but it does increase response time. Also, imagine if a bunch of those cars parked at the jail leaked and an explosion happened. That would set off a chain reaction that would cause lots of damage and many innocent people could get seriously injured. Driving the patrol cars to the domicile helps serve as a deterrent to crime, as is creates a "show of force."

Is there a no smoking policy in effect for county owned and operated vehicles in Jackson County? If so, this officer ignored the policy and should be help partially responsible for the damage as he contributed ot the situation. If there is no such policy in effect, then he did othing wrong.

We need not go on a witch hunt here, just investigate and find the causes of the accident from wherever the evidence leads us.

#20 J. Confused on 11/03/10 at 07:39 PM [Reply]

You are not permitted to smoke in any government building in the state of Georgia, and you have to stand so many feet away from the building when you do. So why is it OK to smoke in a government car?

#20.1 FJCR on 11/03/10 at 08:50 PM [Reply]

Ok J Confused I'll give them that,they took away peoples right to smoke inside buildings? BUT in a car I don't care if it's theirs or the goverments. They should be allowed to smoke in their patrol cars. If it wasn't for this little incident NOTHING would have been said? WHAT'S NEXT? Yall going to want to take their guns too and give them sling shots?

#20.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/05/10 at 03:28 AM [Reply]

A illogical / logical fallacy if I ever read one.

#20.1.1.1 FJCR on 11/05/10 at 09:33 AM [Reply]

Michael here's one using big words don't make you look smarter it makes you look like an idiot.

#21 Anonymous on 11/04/10 at 05:19 AM [Reply]

And since smokers pay more for health insurance, why is Jackson County offering employment to those who end up costing us more in taxes?

Wake up people, if you want smaller government and lower taxes it starts right here at home, not in Washington D.C.

#21.1 FJCR on 11/04/10 at 08:38 AM [Reply]

Anonymous- You are right smokers do pay more for health insurance and life insurance BUT how is it costing us more in taxes?? When I see someone who smoke I just think they will die sooner? Jackson County says they are an EOE employer? If they start not hiring people because they smoke they will have to change it to we are an EOE employer unless you smoke and if you do smoke don't waist your time applying. Then you can watch your tax dollars fly away in law suits?

#21.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/05/10 at 03:25 AM [Reply]

FJCR: Who do you think pays for the health insurance for the government folks?

#21.1.1.1 FJCR on 11/05/10 at 09:30 AM [Reply]

Michael- And when they die from smoking who has to pay then? Then maybe you can get a puppet that will do everything you tell it? Oh wait then you'll find something else to fuss about?
This isn't about smoking this is about propane leaking in your Goverment car? So it's your fault he got hurt? You need to do better or someone is going to get killed in your cars?

#21.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/05/10 at 11:39 AM [Reply]

If the government is responsible for his injuries, yes, you are correct, we, John Q. Public are responsible. That's another reason people shouldn't smoke in our cars. Get it?

I don't know why I waste my time on you. It's a real challenge getting through your thick skull.

#21.1.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 11/05/10 at 03:21 PM [Reply]

Michael- BECAUSE it makes your day? YOU LIKE IT.
And by the way you talk if an officer gets shot with a Smith and Wesson hand gun would it be Smith and Wessons fault? They made the gun and the officer also had a gun. If the officer hadn't been there he wouldn't have gotten shot? This story has nothing to do with smoking IT HAS TO DO WITH A LEAKING PROPANE SYSTEM. Ok let me ask you this if another one explodes and lets say that officer don't smoke what excuse are YALL going to use to blame that one on the officer too?

#21.1.1.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/06/10 at 12:57 AM [Reply]

I give up. You are brain dead.

#21.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 11/06/10 at 06:40 PM [Reply]

No Michael I ain't brain dead and yes I have a brain BECAUSE they had to do brain surgery on me after a car wreck and they took a third of my brain out so I still got two thirds left. They did the surgery so the rest of my brain wouldn't die. THAT'S MY EXCUSE NOW WHAT'S YOURS?

#21.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Michael McCarthy on 11/07/10 at 11:06 AM [Reply]

Well.... Alrighty then.

#21.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 11/07/10 at 08:15 PM [Reply]

Michael my two thirds of a brain are more than you got. I think with my two thirds of a brain and you think with your Rear end OR that's where it sounds like you are getting these hair brained ideals of how to run the Goverment.

#21.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 JAUTRY on 11/08/10 at 07:03 PM [Reply]

I'm sorry,,,, but that was funny. Not laughing at the other person's bad luck, if that story was true.

#22 J. Confused on 11/05/10 at 06:55 PM [Reply]

I came back to see if anyone replied to my comment and saw how crazy this discussion got...so not worth it...much rather spend time with my family. Peace out.

#23 Emmett Delaney on 11/10/10 at 06:31 PM [Reply]

Just damn!!!

#23.1 FJCR on 11/11/10 at 08:17 AM [Reply]

Emmett- Just damn what?

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