Pendergrass Mayor Monk Tolbert

Tolbert: 'I'm going to keep doing whatever the hell I want to do!'

Wednesday, September 2. 2009
A quorum of the Pendergrass City Council met in an unannounced meeting Tuesday night at the real estate office of Mayor Monk Tolbert in an illegal city council meeting.

The mayor and council members Judy Stowe and John Pethel were gathered at Tolbert’s business office around 5:30 p.m.

Working from a tip, Herald editor Mike Buffington went to the office around 6 p.m. and knocked on the door. Tolbert opened the door, but denied an illegal meeting was taking place.

“We’re interviewing for the police chief’s job,” he said.

But no notification of a city council meeting had been given as required by law, nor was the meeting at the normal location of city council meetings. According to Georgia law, Tuesday’s meeting was illegal.

When told by Buffington the meeting was illegal, Tolbert vehemently denied it.

At one point in the heated 10-minute conversation, Buffington asked Tolbert: “You think you can just keep on doing whatever you want to do, don’t you?”

Tolbert replied: “I’ll keep on doing whatever the hell I want to do!”

Meanwhile, the GBI has begun a limited investigation into allegations of wrong-doing in the Pendergrass city government.

But the investigation reportedly won’t be expansive in scope. District Attorney Brad Smith asked the GBI to only investigate the possible misuse of city funds, officials said.

“We have started the investigation,” said GBI official Jim Fullington. “I don’t have a timeline at this time.”

For the complete stories on the Pendergrass government controversy, see the Sept. 2 issue of The Jackson Herald.
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#1 WHAT on 09/02/09 at 02:27 PM [Reply]
Mike get a life! Are you taking this to personal. If it was an interview for the position of chief "that is not considered a council meeting". You should consider doing your job in a professional manner.
#1.1 Mike Buffington on 09/02/09 at 02:34 PM [Reply]
Sandy: I refer you to Ga. Law 50-14-1. Tuesday's meeting was clearly in violation of Georgia law. You are wrong.
#1.1.1 Tom on 09/02/09 at 02:52 PM [Reply]
Mike: I agree that it was an illegal meeting; however, you getting into a confrontation with the Mayor is just unprofessional. What is becoming argumentative with him going to prove? Why not go into why The District Attorney doesn’t want to look into the ticket fixing. Is it because he is in the Tolbert’s pockets? I’m more interested in that than the “illegal meeting.”
#1.1.1.1 Mike Buffington on 09/02/09 at 03:04 PM [Reply]
I don't know why the DA chose to not probe the city court; but I consider illegal meetings to be a serious violation not just of the law, but also the public's trust. What's unprofessional here is a city government that flaunts the law and acts as if it is above the law.
#1.1.1.1.1 Are you kidding? on 09/02/09 at 03:18 PM [Reply]
Right on Mike! That is what is worse than ANYTHING else that corrupt little kingdom has done. Corrupt Police Department...Bad, Corrupt City Manager...Worse, Corrupt Elected Officials...WORST! If the PD or manager is acting inappropriately then the elected officials can fix it, if it is the elected officials that are corrupt then it is so difficult to fix them, and nearly impossible to gain citizen trust again. Do they not realize that, or do they not care. Either answer is scary to consider.
#1.1.1.1.2 Dear Tom on 09/02/09 at 05:10 PM [Reply]
Maybe the DA chose to investigate where there might have been an actual crime committed. "Fixing" tickets, where there's no bribe, is unethical and corrupt but not necessarily criminal--even where there's gross favoritism. Misuse of SPLOST funds may violate regulations and the state's trust, but I haven't seen a criminal statute yet. The DA isn't a civil attorney--he's just there for crimes. As to the illegal meeting--the DA doesn't have the power to arrest anyone and doesn't have jurisdiction to prosecute misdemeanors. Mike--you're a witness, go swear out a warrant JUST LIKE ANY CITIZEN CAN DO. Put your money where your mouth is.
#1.1.1.1.2.1 Mike Buffington on 09/02/09 at 06:07 PM [Reply]
Actually, criminal violations of open records & open meetings laws fall into the Superior Court, although it is a misdemeanor. The DA would have jurisdiction. We are considering all options to address this matter.
#1.2 JAUTRY on 09/03/09 at 02:50 PM [Reply]
"WHAT" Mike quoted law to back every move or accusation that he made. Like it or not, that's about as professional as it gets!
#1.2.1 LawDawg on 09/04/09 at 07:49 AM [Reply]
While I am very disturbed by the complete lack of regard Mayor Tolbert has demonstrated for his constituents, it is important that everyone understand that not all violations of the Georgia Code are criminal. Some are civil (like the mishandling of SPLOST funds) and these do not fall under the jurisdiction of the DA, or maybe even the GBI. The ticket fixing allegations are not a violation of any GA code if there aren't any allegations that the "fixing" occurred as a result of bribery, which means the GBI won't investigate. Interestingly this isn't being discussed in any of the articles. A good journalist should make sure all of the facts are out there. Why isn't the fact that certain of these allegations will require civil legal remedies being addressed? By his own admission just a few posts up Mr. Buffington said he didn't know why the DA chose not "to probe the city court," which begs the question, has he asked? Mr. Buffington has done a great service to this community over the years exposing corruption and the Pendergrass case is no exception. I hope, however, he isn't ignoring certain facts or being selective in what he chooses to print about the investigation in order to make the headlines more interesting in an otherwise slow news cycle. It would be a great disservice to this community and the reputation this paper has built over the years.
#1.2.1.1 Mike Buffington on 09/04/09 at 08:03 AM [Reply]
You make some good points. We understand further investigation may be forthcoming on some of these issues. But the key issue here isn't just looking at what may be criminal and what may have been just unethical; the entire scope of the whistleblower's allegations should be looked into even if that does not lead to criminal charges. That's only fair to those being accused as well. And the citizens need to have the air cleared one way or the other on both the SPLOST money and the dismissing of tickets. I don't know how either of those areas can be ruled out for possible investigation when nobody has yet taken a look at the details of what was done or not done.
Our position over the last couple of weeks has been to wait and see what direction and scope any legal investigation might take. That only began to take shape this week. Rest assured we are not being selective in what we publish, only cautious since the status and scope of a criminal investigation has been fluid.
#1.2.1.1.1 LawDawg on 09/04/09 at 09:41 AM [Reply]
Thank you for responding to my post, Mr. Buffington. It is good to hear that more investigation may be forthcoming. I would suggest, however, that the lack of any acknowledgement that you or your staff have spoken to the DA and the constant referral to contributions the DA received from Tolbert's law firm have implied that Smith is trying to cover something up. Is that intentional or is that just a misunderstanding on our part as readers? Thanks again for staying on top of these Pendergrass officials.
#1.2.1.1.2 Let me get this straight... on 09/04/09 at 11:03 AM [Reply]
On the ticket-fixing issue, if you concede that preferential treatment--while very wrong--isn't criminal, then you're saying you want the DA's office to investigate a non-criminal matter? If there's not even an allegation of a crime, there's no way to get a judge to issue a search warrant for bank records just to look around and see what's there. Likewise on SPLOST funds. You've obviously done homework on what is or isn't a crime, and SPLOST misuse--without embezzlement--doesn't appear to be one, does it? Do we want the DA's office taking attention away from robberies, child molestations, and drug dealers to spend time on a matter where there aren't even any crimes alleged? It seems like the GBI's focus on the misuse of funds is where it needs to be, and it seems tailored to avoid wasting time and resources.
#2 Way to Go on 09/02/09 at 03:12 PM [Reply]
Bravo Mike - Bravo. Hound them like they've never been hounded. If they were interviewing for police chief who were they interviewing??? I wish there were more reporters out there like you - you do your profession proud. If there were more like you I bet the dirty policticians wouldn't get by with as much as they do.
#3 George on 09/02/09 at 06:12 PM [Reply]
Why is it those governing us are pretty much getting a green light to break the law. Why is no one wanting to investigate the majority of what is going on in Pendergrass? I take violations of the Open Meetings Act personally since they are trying to run our city behind a wall of secrecy.
#4 Research People on 09/02/09 at 07:42 PM [Reply]
First of all - Mr. Buffington - GOOD FOR YOU! Nobody else around Jackson County has the "balls" to put it the best way I can to do the stories you do and to find out the things you do! I witnessed first hand (not saying how on here) your investigation of how you brought to light the doing of the ex-DA Tim Madison. Nobody seemed to complain when you did that - you were a hero. Everything you have done has been legal and very professional.

If some people kept up with everything they would realize that Mayor Tolbert's son - the Pendergrass City Judge - Scott Tolbert, and his law firm - were one of the biggest contributors to the DA when he was running for office. From reading what I have read so far - no much evidence in City Hall to show misuse of spending - but hopefully the GBI is smart enough to go straight to the banks and credit card companies to find out about the mis-use of city funds.

I think it is high time Pendergrass and the rest of the State knows exactly how their City is being run and who the people are that are really running it.
#4.1 How about you do some research yourself on 09/02/09 at 10:46 PM [Reply]
The Tolberts didn't contribute that much to the DA, compared to what his entire campaign cost, and it's a tiny amount compared to what his integrity is worth. If that's the best you can come up with, that's ridiculous. Have you called the DA? How do you know he's getting a fair shake in this paper? All the editor's sideways little comments about him are because Buffington is cozied up with Joe Sikes.
#4.1.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 08:28 AM [Reply]
What has Joe Sikes got to do with this he owned a Oil company?
#4.1.1.1 To FJCR on 09/03/09 at 05:50 PM [Reply]
His wife ran against the DA and lost.
#4.1.1.1.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 09:31 PM [Reply]
Well then To FJCR why didn't you mention his wife not him. I think Joe Sikes has had enough problems with out you dragging his name in this?
#4.2 Brad Smith on 09/03/09 at 06:00 PM [Reply]
Contrary to what has been reported, Scott Tolbert was not my biggest contributor. $750 was contributed from the personal account of Nick Primm who is a friend of mine, and worked for the law firm of Tolbert & Bradford at that time. He no longer works there. The remaining $2,700 was contributed by the Tolbert & Bradford Law Firm of who the partner Gabrielle Bradford is a personal friend and is also no longer a part of that firm. My campaign spent more than $63,000. The vast majority of this came from myself, family, friends and loved ones. I can assure all of you, my integrity cannot be purchased so cheaply. The truth of what has happened at Pendergrass and in any investigations will be brought to light at the appropriate, legal and ethical time.
#4.2.1 please help them on 09/03/09 at 09:44 PM [Reply]
Mr. Smith,I lived in the Pendergrass area until about 2006. I now reside in Sebring, Florida. I still have friends that live in the area and I have been keeping up with the Pendergrass situation via the internet and my friends. I am glad you have cleared the air in reference to your political contributers, however I get the sense from my connections in Jackson County and from reading articles and blogs posted on the internet that the majority of the fustration is coming from the seemingly lack of interest on your part. I do not have access to the evidence that has been presented however if what I have heard and read is half true I would tend to agree with the papers readers that a complete the through investigation is warranted. Investigations of political figures happen frequently across our country for lesser alligations. You serve the public that elected you and they are asking for an investigation. Don't ignore them. You owe it to them and the accussed. It is your job to insure that either the alligations are confirmed or without merit. I understand not commenting about the details of any investigation however tell the people if you are investigating, and if not why not. I believe that would ease some tension and get the paper off your back. I strongly believe anything less that an complete investigation into all of the alligations will leave doubt on the table to be picked at for a long time. The citizens, the elected officals and the parties involved can not move forward beyond this ugly situation until YOU bring closure to it.
#4.2.1.1 Brad Smith on 09/04/09 at 11:10 AM [Reply]
Thank you for your reply. Being a new public figure I am still learning when it is appropriate for me to comment and when to stay quiet. In that regard, I have issued the following press release.
On August 20, 2009, Piedmont Judicial Circuit District Attorney Brad Smith facilitated a meeting that was held at the District Attorney’s Office wherein representatives of former and current Pendergrass employees presented their allegations and any evidence of wrongdoing by the Pendergrass Police Department, Pendergrass City Government and the Municipal Court of Pendergrass to Special Agents of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. As a result of this meeting, it was determined that because the alleged misuse of Special Purpose Local Option Sales Tax revenue would not be a violation of Georgia law that is subject to criminal sanctions, it could not be investigated or prosecuted by the GBI or District Attorney’s Office. The legal remedy for any alleged misuse of SPLOST revenue would be a civil lawsuit, which the District Attorney’s Office would not have standing to execute.

Similarly, the allegations of “ticket fixing” in the Municipal Court of Pendergrass as alleged would not constitute a criminal violation of Georgia law. Because of this, the GBI declined to investigate the Municipal Court of Pendergrass. As a result of this decision, in a letter dated August 26, 2009, District Attorney Brad Smith asked the Administrative Office of the Courts of Georgia to conduct an audit/investigation into the procedures and actions of the Municipal Court of Pendergrass in order to restore public confidence in the Courts and to bring closure to this issue.

There were allegations presented at the August 20 meeting that if true may be a violation of Georgia law that is prosecutable criminally. The GBI has started an investigation into these matters. This investigation will be conducted under the standard policies and procedures of the GBI. It is unclear at this time how long this investigation will take. Due to legal and ethical requirements, the GBI and District Attorney’s Office cannot comment on an ongoing criminal investigation; however, the results of this investigation will be revealed at the appropriate legal and ethical time.
I hope this was helpful.
#4.2.2 you just lost my vote! on 09/04/09 at 11:26 AM [Reply]
Your integrity can not be bought that cheaply? So what is the price of your integrity? I am pretty shocked that a D.A. would suggest that his integrity had a price!
#4.2.2.1 Really? on 09/04/09 at 11:57 AM [Reply]
Quit being ridiculous. We all know that isn't what the DA was saying.
#4.2.2.1.1 yes really! on 09/04/09 at 12:35 PM [Reply]
Are you the D.A.? If not how can you know what he meant or not, are you a mind reader! so you should stop being ridiculous and let the D.A. answer that question. You know what they say when you assume. So stop assuming. plus I would hope that a D.A. at least a compentant one would chose his words better.
#4.2.2.1.1.1 To yes really on 09/04/09 at 04:34 PM [Reply]
Sounds like he didn't have your vote anyway. I assume he's prosecuted you before.
#5 FJCR on 09/02/09 at 08:31 PM [Reply]
For all of you that think Mike was unprofessional so what and you probably think Mayor Tolbert is a professional and does everything by the law? Well he sure ain't getting friends this way and I doubt he will get elected again so he had better live it up while he can because his days are numbered and he knows it that's why he said he'll do whatever the hell he wants.
If the GBI can't do a full investigation then maybe they can find enough dirt in what they are allowed to investigate to bury the whole bunch of them if not as soon as the investigation was over I would investigate something else and so on until I got enough dirt on them or they got pissed and just quit. I would put so much pressure on him if he sneezed I would be close enough to hand him a tissue and say excuse you. No matter where he went I would have somebody there it would be like a stake out? But I would have different people do it so he couldn't file stalking charges.If him and his Lady wanted to go out for a romantic dinner someone would be there sitting close enough to see when he gives her a kiss on the cheek and they would write it down and keep notes.
#6 James Buffington on 09/02/09 at 08:41 PM [Reply]
Mike why dont you and Mr Tolbert have a fight on pay per view I would pay to see this, rather than your lousy paper. I see it now Mike the Tolbert Slayer VS The Terrible Monk The Funk Tolbert only on pay per view.
Is it a illegal meeting for more than 1 city council member per room or per building (as you see it).Your a lawyer right??
You and your whistle blowers cry wolf every time the Tolberts have a bowel movement.
#6.1 Mike Buffington on 09/02/09 at 08:48 PM [Reply]
A quorum makes a meeting. There was a quorum Tuesday night. It was an illegal meeting. Period. The rest of your crude comments are unworthy of a reply.
#6.2 Gotta love the law abiding citizens... on 09/03/09 at 08:03 AM [Reply]
"You and your whistle blowers cry wolf every time the Tolberts have a bowel movement."

Well then at least someone will be able to warn us before the crap hits the fan, then won't they! You would rather we knew nothing of the corruption in our city and county governments, I suppose. Typical.

"A quorum makes a meeting. There was a quorum Tuesday night. It was an illegal meeting. Period. The rest of your crude comments are unworthy of a reply."

Exactly so. I guess James is of the same opinion as Mayor Tolbert, that its ok for him to "keep on doing whatever the hell I want to do!” regardless of the law.

You see, Mike, apparently the LAW only applies to SOME of us, it doesn't apply to Mayor Tolbert or to James. They are "special".
#7 James Buffington on 09/02/09 at 08:57 PM [Reply]
Mike you staying up all night hiding in the bushes across city hall waiting on another illegal meeting??? I think I see you ducking as I ride by.
#7.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 08:24 AM [Reply]
James Buffington why you want to put Mike down? Is it because he has the balls to do something you don't? This world needs more people like Mike and less people like you. You are like a lot of other people you want to sit here and bitch about how the goverment is abusing you but you don't do anything. Mike is taking action trying to help you and all the other citizens of Pendergrass and you want to bitch about him? I have figured you out you are one of those people who are going to bitch no matter what.
#7.2 Unbelievable on 09/03/09 at 11:18 AM [Reply]
James I can't believe the crap you spew on this site - what's your problem? It appears that you have issues with Mike Buffington staying on top of the situation in Pendergrass - are these folks related to you? Mike is trying to do the best job he can by keeping the citizens in this city apprized of what their city leaders are doing and not doing. The Mayor and the City Council sure as heck aren't going to tell the very people who pay their wages as we can see. Why do you have a problem with someone trying to rid this town of corrupt leaders. It sounds to me like you're the one doing all the whining and crying - everyone else is just trying to see that these issues get resolved in the most timely manner possible. I applaud ANYONE and EVERYONE who is standing up to the corruption in this town. Have you read all the issues? Maybe you should do some more reading before you pass judgement on everyone else!
I feel sorry for Mike Buffington that he has the same last name as you at this point.
#8 Terry stephens on 09/02/09 at 09:04 PM [Reply]
Good Job Mike!!!!!!
Your helping to prove the Tolberts are Innocent.
Keep up the Good Work!!!!!
#9 Keep it up on 09/03/09 at 06:00 AM [Reply]
Keep up the pressure Mike...please! Ignore the one knuckle head changing his name every time he blogs to make it appear as more people. Hold Pendergrass and its leaders accountable for everything they do! Pendergrass should cease to exist! No city, no problem.
#10 HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM on 09/03/09 at 06:07 AM [Reply]
I like at it like this, If Mike Recorded the interaction between himself and Tolbert then tolbert saying he will continue to do whet ever the hell he wants(in respect to holding an illegal meeting) would give the people of Pendergrass more ammunition to remove tolbert from office.
#11 Familiar with how the GBI works on 09/03/09 at 06:23 AM [Reply]
Based on everything we've read on this paper to date we know the DA had a meeting with Ms. Val Preda and the GBI. I find it hard to believe that the DA walked into that meeting with the ValPreda's and didn't discuss all of the allegations if for no other reason than the ValPreda's would have discussed what they'd found and it's not likely they would've limited what they brought up to the GBI. It is entirely possible the GBI indicated that the evidence gathered either didn't equate to probable cause or that it was a civil matter and not a criminal matter. If that was the case, they would've asked the DA to send them a letter requesting an investigation into the things they specifically felt they did have probable cause for. That is not necessarily something that the GBI spokesperson is going to say in a quick phone interview, either because it doesn't occur to him to say it or possibly even because any meetings that might have occurred between them and the DA and potential witnesses are part of a pending or active investigation and they are limited in what they are allowed to say. There is an eagerness by some on this paper's blog to portray the DA as corrupt, when in fact it's entirely possible not all of the facts are being reported. Perhaps we should wait and see what the GBI turns up and then see how the DA handles it.
#12 Pendergrass Is Ok on 09/03/09 at 10:25 AM [Reply]
I see a lot of stuttering GGGGGGBBBBBBIIIII and DDDDAAAA. The reason they don't drop everything and run to arest everyone in Pendergrass is there is no hard evidence.
Does the DA and GBI need to go around and waste tax payers money investigating Disgruntled employee claims. In my book muder is worst than a fixed ticket. If you dont like Pendergrass than move, maybe even run for city Council or Mayor problem fixed. To all that hide here and post crap Let's see if you have the balls to put your name on the next election ballot. I guess no one has the balls to do THAT no it's to hard for you and the cry babies. No just stay here and post crap all day.
#12.1 John Shultz on 09/03/09 at 03:59 PM [Reply]
What is "arest" and "muder"? You can preview your comment before you post it. And your comment about hiding and posting here. Does your birth cerficate have under your name "Pendergrass is OK"? If not then post your name and quit your hiding fool!
#12.1.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 09:42 PM [Reply]
John Shultz what you mean you don't know what a muder is? You have a muder and a Father. Everyone does. But I am with you on arest? Unless he means the DA and GBI need to take a rest before they come get you he just forgot the space between A and rest
#12.2 UNBELIEVABLE on 09/04/09 at 07:32 AM [Reply]
I guess you haven't read the articles in the newspaper or watched the investigative reports on Fox 5 because there IS hard evidence. The evidence consists of recorded conversations, copies of city issued credit card statements, documentation of misappropriated SPLOST funds, etc. In my book you're the one posting "crap" because you don't know what you're talking about - heck you can't even spell! I can only guess that you are part of the "family" since that's the only way anyone would be able to stand up and defend what Monk, Rob abd the rest of the city leaders have done.
#13 Jurassic Jack on 09/03/09 at 10:43 AM [Reply]
I do not envy the citizens of Pendergrass in their falling out with city government. The conservative Federalist papers stated two hundred years ago in Number 2 that “the people must cede to it (government) some of their natural rights in order to vest it with requisite powers.” But it seems to me that ceding any rights to a government led by a public official who claims “I’m going to keep doing whatever the hell I want to do!” might be a deal with the devil.
I wonder how Pendergrass fits in a progressive county like Jackson, a county that states on its website “We are open and accountable to those we serve.”
#13.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 11:34 AM [Reply]
Jurassic Jack the Jackson County website should be changed to say All but Pendergrass are accountable to those we serve because Pendergrass is accountable to no one because they do what they want.
#14 Pendergrass is Right on 09/03/09 at 11:05 AM [Reply]
How do we know that is what was said to Mike. He has taken Pendergrass and the Tolberts to a personal level.Why dont't we get a REAL paper and REAL reporter to come in and do a REAL story.
Do a search on Mike's posts they are all negitive.
Mike get some Prozac and cheer up your stressing out buddy.
You will never hear me say anything postive about my exwife.
#14.1 FJCR on 09/03/09 at 11:28 AM [Reply]
I'll say this again Pendedergrass is right you said mike is taking this thing with Pendergrass and the Tolberts to a personal level. Is that not what investigative reporters are supposed to do? Investigate the story and publish it. I'm sure he is trying to get answers to alot of the questions a lot of citizens have. Are you saying he should turn a deaf ear on this and just ignore what they are doing? I don't so I will say it even if you won't WAY TO GO MIKE and GOOD JOB.
#14.2 Anonymous on 09/03/09 at 12:32 PM [Reply]
Because if he was not telling the truth that might constitute "libel" and as someone who earns his living as a journalist, I doubt he would do that.

Then again, Mr. Buffington does live in Jackson County and apparently everyone in Jackson county is corrupt.

And as far as a "real" story, did you not catch the Fox5 broadcast exposing all this? Fox News would never lie, would they?
#15 Lives Here on 09/03/09 at 01:20 PM [Reply]
I hope that everyone who is posting an opinion about what Pendergrass should do, actually lives within the city limits of Pendergrass. This is a matter that will be addressed and resolved by the residents who live and vote here. We are grateful for Mr. Buffington's efforts to keep everyone informed of the news that needs to be reported - but please don't create the news. And we appreciate all of the comments that share our outrage and intent to see this matter corrected. But no one benefits from the crude and crass comments that are being posted. This only provides fodder for those who read the posts and use it to validate their opinions about small southern towns. That is not who we are and many residents are working hard to bring the dignity back. I sure hope that everyone posting an opinion or comment here will be eaqually eager to post praise and support on the new community we will become when this is all over.
#16 Get over it!! on 09/03/09 at 02:38 PM [Reply]
I have been living and working in Jackson Co. for 12 years
and for 12 years I have read articles from Mike Buffington
slamming Pendergrass and the Tolberts. It long ago gotten
very OLD!!! Why don't you try to report on something
positive? All you keep doing is tearing down this county.
It's been Pendergrass then Hoschton now we are back on
Pendergrass. It must be nice to have the paper to spew
your own personal agenda. Maybe you will get your wish
some day and all the little towns will give up their
charters so Jackson County will only have three cities,
Braselton, Jefferson & Commerce.
#16.1 Mike Buffington on 09/03/09 at 02:50 PM [Reply]
This newspaper did not make up the whistleblowers who made the allegations about misconduct in Pendergrass; this newspaper did not call the illegal meeting that Pendergrass held Tuesday night; this newspaper did not get the City of Hoschton into its current finanical turmoil where it can't pay its bills. But this newspaper has, and will continue to put a spotlight on government officials and agencies that don't follow the law and that fail to do their jobs. This newspaper will never whitewash the news just because the truth is embarrassing.
#16.2 # 16's comment is one of the dumbest I have ever read on 09/03/09 at 03:46 PM [Reply]
Hey here is an idea. How about the newspaper stop reporting the news. we can change the name of newspaper to blankpaper and forget the whole thing. If you dont like what the newspaper reports no buy it, dont read it, dont go to the website. Get the Athens paper...oh wait they are reporting on the Pendergrass situation too. Ok, get the gainesville paper.....opps they are covering the story.....watch fox 5...damn the are doing stories also. listen to local talk radio....darn you are S.O.L. they have reported on the story Ummmm well I guess you are gonna have to walk around in a stuper. I bet you can do that just fine!
#16.2.1 #16.2 is a drunken idiot on 09/03/09 at 09:55 PM [Reply]
#16.2 You want to talk about walking around in a stuper well I think you was in some sort of stuper when you posted #16.2 must have been a drunken stuper or drugs or you are just stuperfied that means stupid
#16.2.1.1 swing and a miss by the under educated on 09/04/09 at 10:32 AM [Reply]
What? "A" for effort. But I think you failed to make any point. retard
#16.2.1.2 Keep trying, I will wait. on 09/04/09 at 10:53 AM [Reply]
Nice try, however you continue to highlight your glaring stupidity. First what you wrote makes no sense. Second there is no such word as "stuperfied". You may have meant to say stupefy or even stupefied. May I suggest that you read your comments slower next time. Sound out the words if you are having trouble.
#16.2.1.2.1 FJCR on 09/04/09 at 02:31 PM [Reply]
Keep trying, I will wait and I guess you are a English teacher? I made a point and you must have got it but yet you said it made no sense. I may not have used those big words that you can't understand anyway but I got my point made and that was #16.2 is a drunken idiot.
#17 unbelieveable on 09/03/09 at 03:31 PM [Reply]
I am shocked and amazed that there are people still defending the Tolberts and Rob Russell! I guess we should just let the so called city leaders continue to run Pendergrass like it was there private club. Who ever said there was no hard evidence you must have just crawled out from under a rock. Fox 5 and the paper and reported on the mounds of hard evidence. Not to mention the admissions of violations made by Monk and Rob. I guess you dont remember Monk admitting on T.V. that he knowingly employeed an illegal alien and permitted him to drive a city vehicle without a license. I am not an expert but I would bet that knowingly employing an illegal alien violates local, state, and federal law. I also would bet that using a city credit card for personal use is a no no also. And I dont want to hear that Rob purchased clothes with the credit card to do street work in. The last time I checked $90.00 dollar sandals are not ideal for doing yard work, police work, or any other work. And why order clothes from a website? Our local clothing outlets not swank enough. Did the city use splosh funds for projects not designated? Sure, they admitted to that. Why was Rob Russell using the city credit card to get a hotel room in commerce? Was he having a sleep over with people in reference to city business? Why did rob russell get a hotel room at chatue elan with the city credit card? I hope and pray that when a government offical at any level is envolved in unethical, illegal, immoral, or any other conduct not in the best interest of the people that the media is all over it and them! I would also bet that Monks comments at the illegal meeting were recorded or it would have not been the qouted headline. Yes the meeting was illegal. Is it the end of the world, no. But the point is all Monk had to do was advised three days in advance that a meeting would be taking place. Then have a closed meeting to interview Chiefs. But no Monk does what the hell he wants. Do any of you think that all that happened at the illegal meeting was interview Chiefs? I bet they discussed other business which is the right of the people to hear that business. those of you trying to jusify the actions of the so called city leaders would you rather the paper forget it, the people ignore it and allow the Tolberts and Rob Russell to do what the hell they want. If so please move away! I want to know and I want them held accountable! I am so sick of people trying to defend the undefendable. You sound ignorant when you do. Or maybe you are ignorant.
#18 Rick Johnson on 09/03/09 at 08:28 PM [Reply]
Great job Mike!! At this point, all the people on here defending the Tolberts or Russell must be in on it with them.
#19 Ridiculous on 09/03/09 at 08:45 PM [Reply]
People are so unbelieveable, I can't believe people are still defending the Tolberts or Russell, they have it on tape, they admitted to things on the news. There are actually people on here criticizing the newspaper for exposing these people. What idiot would complain that the news is exposing these corrupt politicians and their blatant disregard for the people they supposedly serve. I guess it must be the Tolberts and city council members making these really stupid posts. I, for one, am actually enjoying the way this all playing out. The fun part is that they clearly aren't very smart so they just incriminate themselves over and over again. They don't even present themselves like respectable, educated professionals that run a city. These must be the people that Jeff Foxworthy uses as inspiration for his jokes.
#20 Brian Williams on 09/03/09 at 09:47 PM [Reply]
The real question is, who were they interviewing for the position of Chief of Police? Is he or she qualified? Mike, please find out if you can.
#20.1 FJCR on 09/04/09 at 10:56 AM [Reply]
Brian they were not interviewing anybody they just used that excuse to have a secret private meeting. All they got to say now is he didn't pass the interview. Which really means if there was somebody he was to honest.
#21 Steven Satterfield on 09/04/09 at 12:26 AM [Reply]
Good for you Mike. Keep up the Good work and Keep the pressure on. Someone has to stop the "family". What if we all took that attitude, " I will do what the Hell I want", then why do we have rules and laws to go by. Pendergrass needs a new Mayor and City Council.
#22 1911A1 on 09/04/09 at 08:54 AM [Reply]
You know, with so much of the media having lost their credibility by their blatant worship of politicians (and other "celebrities"), I for one have to offer kudos to Mike for his relentless dogging of all the crooked politicians* on his beat. I was a Jackson County resident when the county commission pulled that fast one to build their Taj Mahal and Mike exposed those dealings, and county residents responded properly: by FIRING those commissioners (sadly, the damage - and debt - was done.)

Perhaps some people aren't really defending the sleazoids in Pendergrass so much as they are in denial, not wanting to feel the embarrassment of association. No need to feel embarrassed, though, because there are crooked politicians EVERYWHERE. It's just that those in Pendergrass have turned it into an art form.

Indeed, with those in Washington engaged in a full-court press to do everything possible to make "1984" a reality and trample all over what liberty we have left, I wish this country were full of Mike Buffington types who are willing to expose all those lying, self-serving politicians at every level. Perhaps if that were so, Americans would awake from their slumber and do some cleaning out at the voting booths next fall.

* "Crooked politician" - from the Department of Redundancy Department
#23 concerned on 09/04/09 at 09:10 AM [Reply]
Lets vote Pendergrass out of Jackson County.
#24 Brenda on 09/04/09 at 11:34 AM [Reply]
I dont live in Pendergrass, but have followed this mess because I have relatives there. Mike, maybe you should take over all these vacant jobs. Clearly you know more than the citizens.
You have fueled this fire.. let it go and let Pendergrass work out it's own issues.
#24.1 Mike Buffington on 09/04/09 at 11:42 AM [Reply]
The issues in Pendergrass are much larger than the city limits; it affects all of Jackson County. We have always covered issues in Pendergrass and will continue to do so.
#24.2 FJCR on 09/04/09 at 02:41 PM [Reply]
Brenda so are you saying Mike should keep quite and let the Tolberts do whatever they want? Mike is a reporter and it is his job to investigate stories and report them no matter if the story is about Pendergrass or Atlanta or even Washington DC. If he didn't stay on this story you would say he wasn't doing his job. So to you Mike is in a no win situation? If he reports it you get mad then if he don't report it YOU GET MAD.
#24.3 Unbelievable on 09/04/09 at 03:30 PM [Reply]
Brenda - Mike hasn't been fueling this fire - the Mayor and his little band of corrupt politicians are the ones fueling it because they are the ones throwing the gas on the fire. Obviuosly he does know more than they do - he is a law abiding citizen - they obviously are not! You better read more of the facts about this whole thing before you pass judgement on someone else.
#25 NANA on 09/04/09 at 11:40 AM [Reply]
Pendergrass is such a cute little town.
Love the name of the street there. Glenn Abby.. to precious !
#26 Let us be patient on 09/05/09 at 12:20 PM [Reply]
With his blog #4.2.1.1 above, our District Attorney Brad Smith has taken the time to explain to us the situation, his actions and his intent, and he has done it very well. At this point, there should be no further need for him to endure, and/or banter with, more questions, accusations and mindless insults such as those he has been receiving.

Jackson Herald editor Mike Buffington has done an absolutely commendable job of informing and updating the community of/with the initial concerns and ensuing events. And as we have seen, from most he has been praised, and unfortunately from a few he has been slurred.

We have every reason to believe that the wheels are turning, and that our district attorney and GBI will follow through in a legal and professional manner, for whatever the outcome.

In the meantime, we can be certain that Mr. Buffington will keep us properly informed of any new revelations. Now let us be patient and non-judgemental until we know the facts and final outcome.

Or, to express it even more simply, we are being told why and how the action is in progress, so let's cut out the childish crap, both accusations and denials, until we see what happens.
#27 Scott Butler on 09/06/09 at 03:05 PM [Reply]
I have only lived in Jackson County for 20 years. I enjoy Mr. Buffington's efforts and his newspapers. In a time when most media is polarized I find Mr. Buffington and his papers to be open and more times than not favorable to municpalities and the county. There comes a time when the truth has to be exposed. Few people will confront those in government for fear of reprisals. I applaud Mr. Buffington.

When you see where Hoschton is finacially and where Pendergrass is in unethical and corrupt politicians perhaps he could be more aggressive.

For those of you in Pendergrass take hope that your city will survive corruptness, Hoscton doesn't have a chance. Insolvency is Hoschton's most likely avenue.
#28 Dragon slyer on 09/07/09 at 01:49 PM [Reply]
It is tragic that the Tolbersts will no doubt get away with this and all other alleged acts but it is more tragic that Mike is doing the reporting. If it were any other paper & any other reporter we may see results and justice. Needless to say Mike & his paper losts credibility long ago. Now this is a waste of ink.
#28.1 White Knight on 09/07/09 at 06:39 PM [Reply]
You must be a reporter, or have a stake in the News Media. I am sorry for you that you have obviously some sour grapes! Mike has and will continue to do a most admiral job! Shooting the messenger will not solve the problem for the Tolberts! For centuries the weak always try and take from the strong to try and make them stronger. I suggest you try and make your own case for the Tolberts, instead of attacking the messenger.
#28.1.1 Krazy Redneck on 09/08/09 at 11:03 AM [Reply]
White Knight you tell them how it is. But it is a lot easier to shoot the messenger than it is to blame the guilty? Dragon slyer must be related, good friends,or be on the Tolberts payroll?
#28.2 FJCR on 09/07/09 at 07:48 PM [Reply]
Dragon slyer Just how do you figure Mike &"his paper" lost their credibilty long ago? Is it because they are reporting the truth and Mike won't roll over for the Tolberts and let the them as Monk put it "Do whatever the hell they want to do" or could it be that you have a personal problem with Mike? So do you think Mike is adding to his reporting to make it sound worse than it is?? I DON'T THINK SO if he was doing that he would loose his job. It's nice to know there is still a real man in Jackson Co.that his willing to stick his nose where you don't have the balls too for fear of people like the Tolberts.
#29 Sounds like on 09/07/09 at 06:47 PM [Reply]
Sounds like to me the next time Monk and Mike get together there needs to be an adult present.Nice headline mike
#29.1 Krazy Redneck on 09/08/09 at 11:09 AM [Reply]
Sounds like there don't need to be an adult present. Maybe boxing gloves they could have a pay per view match? I would pay to see that.
#30 Kay on 09/08/09 at 11:40 AM [Reply]
-(For those that are interested)Below you will find verses from Isaiah Ch.3(*verses 4-12 to be exact*)that are very relevant to this current situation. God's Word is as follows.....

"And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them"

"And the people shall be oppressed, every one by another, and every one by his neighbour: the child shall behave himself proudly against the ancient, and the base against the honourable"

"When a man shall take hold of his brother of the house of his father, saying, Thou hast clothing, be thou our ruler, and let this ruin be under thy hand"

"In that day shall he swear, saying, I will not be an healer; for in my house is neither bread nor clothing: make me not a ruler of the people"

"For Jerusalem is ruined, and Judah is fallen: because their tongue and their doings are against the LORD, to provoke the eyes of His glory"

"The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, THEY HIDE IT NOT. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves"

"Say ye to the righteous, that it shall be well with him: for they shall eat the fruit of their doings"

"Woe unto the wicked! It shall be ill with him: for the reward of his hands shall be given him"

"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths"
#31 Kay on 09/08/09 at 12:26 PM [Reply]
Okay, I've read all the insults about Mike Buffington that I'm going to without saying something back.....

Amidst all the hard times, the drama, the scandals & the corruption this county has witnessed through the years, there remains one positive constant throughout all this negativity...That one positive constant is Mike Buffington & crew. Yes, it does certainly seem as if we have more than our fair share of the load of things I mentioned above, but look on the bright side....At least we have a fearless newspaper editor that we can all count on to expose it. By exposing wrong-doing, one is aiding in the process of justice & accountability; often times exposure is the first step of acquiring justice as well....How would we ever know of the secret things going on in the night if they were never exposed to us? We wouldn't. Are you aware that the majority of newspapers zip their lips and run, not walk, the other way if & when they happen to come across some sort of corruption in their community, especially if they think for even one moment that not doing so would cause them any grief, hard work, or "attacks" whatsoever(in other words, I'm describing a wimp here)?

Bottom line, Mike Buffington is messing up a lot of peoples playhouses, and they don't like it...Therefore, they go into attack mode & start their little deflection process against him. No biggie for Mike I'm sure....this often happens when playhouses start to crumble.
#32 old friend on 09/08/09 at 08:37 PM [Reply]
I would like to start that all Brad Smith has done is to throw a bone to the G.B.I. and give them something to investigate while trying to keep Mike off him. The G.B.I. is the second biggest waste of the tax payers’ dollars only behind D.F.A.C.S.. Brad Smith guided them where to look knowing it would not involve his friends. In past G.B.I. investigations agents where quoted as saying "we will leave no stones unturned". This is not the case here, Brad said look here but not there, are we clear? The G.B.I. will not only leave no stones un- turned they will throw some away throw some on another pile or just plain make something up whatever suits them, but not the truth. Brad will end up being the same way ...just wait and see. Mike has always fought to get the truth out there and some don't like it because they know it’s the truth and the only way they can spin the truth is to make him look bad, the G.B.I. is also known for that as well as former D.A. Madison who worked closely with the G.B.I. for years and who was it that solved that case, Mike Buffington, hell they should make him an agent he's done more than all of them put together.
When one of theirs agents get's in trouble they move him to Atlanta or just fire him as to not bring any bad light to the agency but let a local cop get accused of anything and they are there with bells and whistles. There are many of GBI agents that could have been arrested but they move them or force them to resign . The Jackson Herald has been around a lot longer than any of these other fly by night papers who write only puff pieces about ice cream and flowers, I imagine the paper will be around a lot longer.
#32.1 FJCR on 09/08/09 at 09:10 PM [Reply]
old friend I have to agree with you on your post Mike and the Jackson Herald have been around a long time probably longer than most of the agents in the GBI and he has solved as many or more cases related to Jackson Co. than the GBI. I know he and the Herald have been around longer than the political Tolberts have and he will be here long after they are gone and forgot about? And that his because he gets results and answers. If he has to get in your face to get the answers he will and I thank him for that.
#32.1.1 Jumppinbear on 09/09/09 at 09:10 AM [Reply]
In reply to FJCR It is a shame that all of law enforcement is afraid of the Tolberts and the Pendergrass Gang,There is something they can do and that is take it to the polls but first should not Brad Smith our beloved DA our maybe the local FBI (they should all be put in jail for a long time). I had friend that got setup by the old Lt. And the Warden the first thing was to call P.O.S.T. to get his cert. pulled then they Called the G.B.I. and they wanted him locked up They was here that day (in a matter of hours) he didn't steal anything but they wanted him gone because he was doing his job he was waiting at the JCSO withe some one to sign his bond.well to make a long story short they did pros. him and dropped the charges P, O, S , T. did not take his cert.something you just have to get a hold of the right person what the are doing is stealing tax payers money (theft after trust )and vol. of their office and the city judge could be kicked off the bench and the dirty cops could lose their cert.
#32.1.1.1 FJCR on 09/09/09 at 10:08 PM [Reply]
yeah Jumpinbear I have to agree with you too they should remove everyone related to or friends with the Tolberts and put them on trial with a real Judge not some Kangroo court like Pendergrass has now?
If it's someone in public office and they get mad and want to get rid of you they call the GBI and try to get your POST cert.pulled and something like that the GBI is here in a hurry they don't waste time like they usually do if you or I were to call them. It's harder for you to prove your innocent than it is for them to prove your guilty?
They say in America you are innocent until proven guilty but that's not really true you are guilty until proven innocent.
#32.2 to Old Friend on 09/09/09 at 09:39 AM [Reply]
I would like to start by saying that you're holding forth on subjects about which you know little. You don't sound like you know the DA personally. He's appeared in public enough, he's in court all the time--have you ever seen him with these "friends" you accuse him of protecting? And what would you have done if you were DA, bearing in mind that you have no arrest powers of your own, and that the Pendergrass PD can't investigate its own city (and couldn't be trusted to even if it weren't a conflict of interest)? Where would you go but the GBI? In fact, there IS no other agency to investigate. You're stuck with them, and it's not the DA's fault. What other authority is there? Do you have any ideas, or do you just want to smear somebody you don't like?
#32.3 To Old Friend on 09/09/09 at 10:23 AM [Reply]
Wow, that is quite the imagination you have there, Old Friend. Mr. Smith actually had the ValPreda's meet with the GBI and present the evidence they had found to them. Since they are the whistleblower's attorney and private investigator, I doubt seriously they left anything out. The GBI declined to investigate certain charges, yet you are accusing Mr. Smith of trying to protect the Tolberts. After the GBI declined to investigate the court, Mr. Smith invited the Administrative Office of the Courts of GA to investigate. Do you think they are going to protect the Tolberts too? There is not a big conspiracy here. The DA, the GBI and everyone else who is charged with upholding the law are also bound by the law, and just because you believe there is probable cause for something doesn't mean the law does. These laws are in place to keep all of us normal people from being the victims of witch hunts. While I agree that Mike Buffington has done us all a service in exposing the corruption in Pendergrass, I don't think that everyone else is trying to cover it up. Why can't everyone just be patient and let these people do their jobs. If they don't do them, then we can complain, preferably without hurling personal attacks at people we don't actually know. But so far, based on the facts presented in this very paper, it appears people are doing their jobs.
#32.4 personal grudge? on 09/09/09 at 10:54 AM [Reply]
I'm going to bet you weren't there when DA Smith asked the GBI to investigate. Sounds like you have a bit of a personal grudge against him given how emphatic you are in your assertions. It's a shame that public officials aren't protected by the slander and lible laws to the extent the rest of us are because I suspect Mr.Smith would have himself quite a few lawsuits if he did have that protection, particularly if you all had the guts to actually sign your name to your slander.
#32.4.1 old friend on 09/09/09 at 06:04 PM [Reply]
Funny I missed your Name ...tell you what list your name and I'll give you a call and discuss a few of your points and I agree about the slander and liale laws...I await your response!
#33 They call me Mommy on 09/09/09 at 01:40 PM [Reply]
Okay. I don't mean to change the subject, but putting all the drama aside, has it really come to the point where I can't lay my newspaper on the coffee table anymore, in fear that my 7 year old will pick up the paper to see 4 letter words in BOLD print on the front???? I think the heading, at least, could've been a little more discreet. Not trying to start a big floozy over this, just voicing MY opinion. Thanks.
#33.1 FJCR on 09/09/09 at 09:22 PM [Reply]
Well They call me Mommy that's what Monk Tolbert said. If they had printed that Tolbert used some not so nice language everyone would wonder what he said? Oh and do you think it is right for a Mayor to say something like that? AND have you ever heard of freedom of the press?? That's just like you can go to the square in Jefferson and get out and say what ever you want about anybody you want and as long as you don't break any laws there is nothing anyone can do?
#33.1.1 They call me Mommy on 09/10/09 at 10:55 AM [Reply]
No...I think it's flat out REDICULOUS that ANY respectable (or supposed to be) authority uses such language to start with. I'm not saying leave everyone in question as to what he said. I just think it's a shame that it has to be plastered on the front headline in BIG BOLD LETTERS. Sorry, I live in a "G-Rated" house, not that they can be sheltered from such language their whole lives, but I shouldn't have to preview the newspaper for bleep-words before they're allowed to skim through it for things such as people they know or friends from school. Know what I mean?
#33.1.1.1 FJCR on 09/10/09 at 11:43 AM [Reply]
Yes They call me Mommy I know what you mean BUT you can't shelter them all their life and if they go to school I can pretty much bet that they hear alot worse language than that everyday at school? I have heard it myself. I heard this one jindergardener saying stuff one time that almost made me blush? I thought where does a kid that age get such language?
#33.1.1.2 your a loser on 09/11/09 at 07:07 PM [Reply]
what the HELL is rediculous?
#33.1.1.2.1 FJCR a.k.a. One krazy Redneck on 09/12/09 at 10:39 AM [Reply]
your a loser you are supposed to read the whole comment but you can't get past the first 7 words. As long as you understand what they are trying to say it don't matter if they spell it right? If you don't know what the word means go look it up? So I think YOU R A LOSER.
#33.1.1.2.2 paladin on 09/16/09 at 05:59 PM [Reply]
Touche'
#33.1.1.3 tlm on 09/12/09 at 03:59 PM [Reply]
Don't worry Mommy, if your kid reads like you spell they won't even know what the word is
#33.2 Mommy, on 09/13/09 at 07:10 PM [Reply]
That's why your kids have a mommy, somebody who watches out for them and can make sure that if the newspaper has something printed on the front that they deem as inappropriate they won't let their kids read it. Anyway, it's the mayor that spoke that way, don't blame the messenger, I think people need to know that their mayor is making comments like this. You should be more upset that people holding positions of authority in your town are such a poor example for your kids, and I'm not only referring to the way they speak!!!
#33.2.1 FJCR a.k.a. One krazy Redneck on 09/13/09 at 08:05 PM [Reply]
Yes Mommy I agree when a man wants people to look at him as an example of how to conduct themselves he needs to watch what he says and does.
I want to pose a question to everyone reading this: Lets say you went to a new church and it was a pretty good service but the next week you saw that same preacher drinking alcohol and cussing and kissing on strange women would you have any faith in that preacher as being a man of God after that?
#34 Mabeline on 09/10/09 at 02:13 PM [Reply]
Everyone should get a life and stop belly aching on here and go to the meetings and boy-cot the man!
#34.1 FJCR on 09/10/09 at 06:08 PM [Reply]
Hey everybody the makeup lady has spoken. We had better listen to her. If you do go to a meeting you will know who Mabeline is. She will be the one with 4 inches of makeup on.
Hey Mabeline you going to bring Covergirl and Revlon with you? Maybe some Dutch boy paints or Sherman Williams?
#35 They call me Mommy on 09/13/09 at 07:55 AM [Reply]
FJCR: I know that to be true too. Authority is supposed to be someone your kids can look up to. Unfortunately, I also know that with the way this country is headed downhill on a roller coaster with no brakes, watching a tounge is WAAAAY too much to ask from such a person. So you have a point. Once again, I was just voicing my opinion.

Your a loser: I suppose you're kin to the mayor, seeings how you've brought yourself down to his level. Hence....YOU are rediculous.
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